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noiiir:

tiocfaidharlulz:

noiiir:

You mean the home that you could only buy because the bank gave you the money to buy it, which you are unable to repay and due to the conditions of the contract that you signed they are allowed to take back?

You mean taking on the definition that home is but private property and that a house should not be a right to ensure the safety and welfare of people, simply a commodity? You mean the money people have to take from banks because of the capitalist system whereby they are given insufficient money for their labour and therefore have to beg for money from a rich elite who unfairly own that money? You mean the banks who have systemically played a role in destroying the social conditions, the political system and economic climate of the country? You mean the contract and laws defined by the powerful elites designed specifically to protect private property and elitist rights for the rich and to disregard basic rights - rights not defined by those in power who can define the law - of the masses? You mean the “free-will” and “consent” people give by signing these contracts that they’re forced to give in the current system because without doing that they’re thrown out into the streets and told to fuck off by the system itself?
I’m sorry. I missed your point.

You clearly are missing the point, allot of points, but hey, lets all pretend that free market capitalism is the worse of all economic models.
Rather than complain, give alternatives, what would be your alternative economic model. And if you say some form of anarcho-communism, please allow ample time for me to laugh jollily before replying.

My alternative economic model would be a socialist one, but I’m not really bothered getting into that debate with you because you’re clearly not bothered with constructive debate, evident by your willingness to automatically laugh, rather that respond, to someone with a different viewpoint.
I’m not really missing any points, we both know that was more a sarcastic point. I was suggesting instead that the point you were making was somewhat null and void because it disregarded the structural issues behind what you were talking about, which this grouping are attempting to highlight. It’s insufficient to say that people shouldn’t complain. Yes, they should participate actively and do something to change the situation, but that doesn’t mean people should complain when there are clear injustices and inequalities structurally embedded in society. At least the occupation of this bank is making an active effort to make a direct impact on the community, and for that they should be commended.

tiocfaidharlulz:

noiiir:

You mean the home that you could only buy because the bank gave you the money to buy it, which you are unable to repay and due to the conditions of the contract that you signed they are allowed to take back?

You mean taking on the definition that home is but private property and that a house should not be a right to ensure the safety and welfare of people, simply a commodity? You mean the money people have to take from banks because of the capitalist system whereby they are given insufficient money for their labour and therefore have to beg for money from a rich elite who unfairly own that money? You mean the banks who have systemically played a role in destroying the social conditions, the political system and economic climate of the country? You mean the contract and laws defined by the powerful elites designed specifically to protect private property and elitist rights for the rich and to disregard basic rights - rights not defined by those in power who can define the law - of the masses? You mean the “free-will” and “consent” people give by signing these contracts that they’re forced to give in the current system because without doing that they’re thrown out into the streets and told to fuck off by the system itself?

I’m sorry. I missed your point.

You clearly are missing the point, allot of points, but hey, lets all pretend that free market capitalism is the worse of all economic models.

Rather than complain, give alternatives, what would be your alternative economic model. And if you say some form of anarcho-communism, please allow ample time for me to laugh jollily before replying.

My alternative economic model would be a socialist one, but I’m not really bothered getting into that debate with you because you’re clearly not bothered with constructive debate, evident by your willingness to automatically laugh, rather that respond, to someone with a different viewpoint.

I’m not really missing any points, we both know that was more a sarcastic point. I was suggesting instead that the point you were making was somewhat null and void because it disregarded the structural issues behind what you were talking about, which this grouping are attempting to highlight. It’s insufficient to say that people shouldn’t complain. Yes, they should participate actively and do something to change the situation, but that doesn’t mean people should complain when there are clear injustices and inequalities structurally embedded in society. At least the occupation of this bank is making an active effort to make a direct impact on the community, and for that they should be commended.