jtem:

Heaven forbid I should dispute such an epic work — perish the thought — but why are you dragging the United States into this, and since when has “Fight” become a euphemism for “Blow Yourself Up”?

You only hurt your own cause when you insult the intelligence of the people you hope to…

… You’ve went on a complete tangent. The OP wasn’t saying that the Americans were the origins of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, they were simply making an unjust comparison on a global scale. But either way, there’s little point in arguing with somebody whose going to ultimately resort to dismissing anybody’s point of view if they’re younger than them.

But “you don’t understand imperialism”, don’t make me laugh lol.

seanmacdiarmada:

jtem:

Heaven forbid I should dispute such an epic work — perish the thought — but why are you dragging the United States into this, and since when has “Fight” become a euphemism for “Blow Yourself Up”?

You only hurt your own cause when you insult the intelligence of the people you hope to reach….

And, please, you even put “America” in the tags. 

As long as the Palestinians looks to others to do their bidding they will never have their own nation.

Almost confused as to this response, I have to admit.
I’m not sure why you want OP to explain why they’re “dragging the United States into this” - it’s the #1 example of this turning state soldiers into heroes and has a history of imperialism (and in the case of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, supporting such).

A lot more interested in the ‘blow yourself up’ slur though. Aside from the obvious comments I could make about often desperate guerilla warfare tactics (whether I support them or not) employed against an occupying force which is militarily superior, I think it says a lot that you automatically equated it with ‘blowing yourself up’ - I’m pretty sure OP was referring to fighting back with stones, guns and rockets.

Equatable to “blowing yourself up”.
Jtem, one minute you sympathise with the Irish against occupation and injustice by a foreign government and sympathise with their right to an armed struggle, and the next you trivialise the Palestinian people who do the same thing as the Irish in this sense. Suicide bombings, which btw are not overly common especially in comparison to other tactics like armed attacks or, god help us all, the stone throwing, so I don’t know why you’re picking on that… Irish people blew themselves up when setting off bombs to kill British military occupiers as well…