jtem:

tiocfaidharlulz:

 

Again, you’re right, the onus isn’t on the Irish. But it’s not on every British citizen either. What the British state did/does to my country was/is worthy of violent reaction and people should be repulsed by the British state because of it’s role in Ireland - North and south - particularly in it’s continued occupation of six of our counties. Britain judged and repressed, discriminately, the Irish people for their own benefit, Britain used the system to expliot my people and Britain advocated the idea that the Irish were scum, that they shouldn’t be accepted or respected, evident through the microcosmic “no Irish need apply” signs throughout British history. That kind of attitude, typical of the British state, is something which makes my blood boil; I understand and appreciate it does the same to you, however we seem to draw lines there - you’re willing to have an equal reaction to all British people because of the British state

No. I just made it clear that this was not the case. It is the case for the British IN THE NORTH. The north is partitioned by the British. The north is occupied and ruled by the British. The British consider the northern counties to be British soil. You will find them on every map of the U.K. And, yes, there is a HUGE, a MASSIVE difference between a Brit and a Brit moving to/living in the British partition. There is a MASSIVE difference between a Brit and a Brit taking advantage of the rape of Ireland. There is a difference between a Brit and a Brit traveling to British occupied Ireland to attend a school that only exists because of the rape of Ireland, a school which actually played an important political role in the rape of Ireland.

There is a difference.

Aye, but you keep saying there’s a difference, but not saying what the difference is. If they are not actively repressing, exploiting or degrading the Irish people - in fact, if some of them come here and turn out to be activists advocating a united Irish Republic - what is it I’m supposed to be against them being here for?

jtem:

“Ok, Irishman here, and fuck off. That’s really all I have to say to you. Going to uni is not an invasion”

—titletocome

Well, anyone can claim to be anything on the internet, so why not stick to the issues and the facts instead of “My opinion means more than anyone elses”?

Besides, my family…

For someone telling him that he shouldn’t be going down the “my opinion overrides yours”, you’re being obscenely condescending in this whole “you clearly don’t get it” path you’ve decided to go down. I appreciate that you have an opinion on the occupation of the six counties and the British imperialism enforced upon Ireland over the last 800 years, but I find you’re entire point past that to be enitrely ridiculous. And I say that as an Irish Republican Socialist.

I’m vehemently against the occupation of our six counties and I’m anti-British state, I’m anti- anybody coming over here as an individual who tries to enforce their culture at the expense of ours or tries to demean or degrade our culture - that’s where you seem to be confused. I’ve come across a fierce amount of arseholes in my time who have been disrespectful of Irish culture and the Irish people and have ignored the Irish struggle or tried to laugh it off as unimportant to counter-productive, I’ll stand against anybody who takes advantage of the history of my country to come over here and tear down the people and what they’ve been through; the fact however is blatant - not every British citizen does this. Most British people are dead on and are more than welcome in any part of this country. And that goes for most British citizens. But you directed this specifically at Isabella. Now, I don’t know Isabella very well personally, but I’ve got an idea of her from interacting with on here and by the way she’s expressed herself and the bottom line here is your opinion is entirely and categorically flawed in saying people like her are not welcome, appreciated or needed in this country. She’s not taking advantage of British imperialism by coming here and using it against the six counties, she’s coming here because she wants to, has an interest and respect for our culture, our history, our politics and is willing to listen to all types of people within our community. That’s just the bonus; people like her should be encouraged to come here because they’re making their own opinions and respecting other people, it shows the strength of relations across different cultures - Ireland is not, and should never be, just for the Irish or just for people traditionally aligned with Ireland - Ireland should be open to different people and different cultures, as long as that is not at the expense and detriment of our own.

Any anybody who thinks differently just because one individual is born in Britain is simply not looking at things from a fair perspective. There’s plenty of Brits I know in Belfast and around the six counties who are brilliant, respectful people - a handful of them are even Republicans.

Republicans are constantly told that they’re rigid and stuck in their ways and that they’re pathetic because of it. This is completely wrong and anybody who thinks this way loses a great amount of respect from me automatically. Your point however lives up to that claim. You’re on the right lines as long as you stick to judging it by circumstance; if someone is coming over and disrespecting people, fuck them, they can goway to fuck - but assuming every Brit should stay out of Ireland because they’re British is a farce and a delusion and it’s counter-productive to Irish Republicanism. When we say ‘Brits Out’ we don’t mean every British person, we mean the British system and it’s imperialistic impacts. One British girl studying in Belfast with Republican Socialist leanings isn’t the rape of the occupied six counties.

No, but seriously, fuck you then. To some extent I still defend Sinn Féin, even though it’s often difficult. I’m very quickly running out of that ability.